Emigres Take Battle Over Macedonia’s Name to America
18 04 2007 When it comes to taking up a hard-line position, no
one equals the Greek Americans or their Macedonian counterparts.
By Amanda Rivkin in New York (Balkan Insight, 18 April 07)
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| UN gift shop: FYR Macedonia key chains - photo: Amanda Rivkin |
Details matter in diplomacy, as His Excellency Igor
Dzundev, Macedonian Ambassador to the United Nations, should know. His office
at 866 UN Plaza, a non-descript building in Manhattan is the one place at the
UN where the sign on the door reads Republic of Macedonia, as opposed to the
UN-approved acronym, FYROM, short for Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
His office is a rare “safe haven” from this
cumbersome-sounding term, because the UN inserts the two words Former Yugoslav
before the name Republic
of Macedonia for all
official purposes. This two-word distinction is at the heart of a 14-year long
dispute between Ambassador Dzundev’s country and its more powerful neighbor, Greece.
“Each delegation has its name plate on the desk and
ours is the Former Yugoslav
Republic of Macedonia or FYROM,” said
Dzundev of his plaque at the General Assembly. “We feel discriminated against
because we are not allowed to be a member state there using our constitutional
name,” he said, referring to the fact that the country calls itself the Republic of Macedonia in its constitution.
In the Balkans, battles are etched deep in the soil. Athens is not about to abandon its insistence that the
word Macedonia
is 100 per cent Greek. Through sheer determination the Greek government has
pestered one international institution after another into submission, including
the UN and the European Union. Within NATO, only Turkey,
Greece’s historic rival,
recognises the Republic
of Macedonia as
such.
Athens disputes the existence of a
neighboring state called Macedonia,
believing that the legacy of classical Macedonians like Alexander the Great and
Philip of Macedon is on the line. Its northernmost region is also called Macedonia.
Therefore two Macedonias
not only share a border but a name, a situation many Greeks find intolerable.
Panos Spiliakos, a 6ft-4ins tall Greek-American, is
foremost among those who are determined to defend Greece’s
standpoint in the US
to the limit.
As the most
vocal Greek-American in the name dispute, Spiliakos describes himself as “an
apostle of the truth.” His Pan-Macedonian Association resents the use of the
name Macedonia
by anyone not of Greek origin.
“No one ever challenged the Greekness of Macedonia
before 1944,” Spiliakos said referring to the date when the Yugoslav leader
Josip Broz Tito endorsed the creation of a Macedonian republic within the new
Yugoslav federation.
Ambassador Dzundev, on the other hand, says documents
show the Greek government briefly used the name the Socialist Republic of
Macedonia in 1992 without complaint. “Our position on this is that we are not a
party to the problem because we do not have a problem with our name,” said Dzundev.
There is also the fact that many of the two million
inhabitants of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
are not pleased to be the only remaining heirs to the name Yugoslavia, and
dislike the way Greeks lump them in with all the other southern Slavs.
Both Greek nationalists - and the Albanian minority in
the republic - insist that Macedonians are Slavs who speak a dialect of
Bulgarian. They are not members of a separate Macedonian nation, the argument
goes, but mountain Bulgarians who lost their way.
The issue has lingered on unresolved for 14 years. Neither
side approves of the UN’s provisional name. Even Matthew Nimetz, the UN envoy
who mediated the compromise, concedes that the name FYROM is “offensive to the
people of that country”. Appointed UN Special Envoy for the FYROM/Republic of Macedonia Name
Dispute Negotiations in 1999, he has been involved in the issue since the early
1990s.
Before stepping into this role, Nimetz had a
distinguished career in the US State Department, serving as an undersecretary
of state and worked under Cyrus Vance during the peace negotiations between Greece and Turkey
over Cyprus
in the 1970s. In many ways, Nimetz subscribes to the sentiments of many Cold
War-era diplomats: stalemates should be regarded as successes.
These days, Nimetz works for General Atlantic, a
leading venture-capital firm, and he travels to the Balkans only a few times a
year, most recently in January 2007, after the Macedonian government announced
plans to rename Skopje’s
international airport after Alexander the Great.
When both sides are at the negotiating table, Nimetz
said he refers to the two countries using the capital cities Athens
and Skopje.
“It’s very difficult to have a conversation about it without being made to seem
like you are trying to make a particular point,” he said.
This is a difficulty anyone devoted to the dispute
encounters almost immediately. The name Macedonia is
too vague but the other options simultaneously offend and inhibit any effort at
dialogue.
“I will occasionally use Republic
of Macedonia after using the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia,”
the envoy said. “I don’t ever use Macedonia.”
Early on, he found a good way to talk around the
problem. “When I am in the country I try
to avoid using the word. I prefer ‘this
great nation’,” he said.
The “great nation’s” most spectacular diplomatic
breakthrough was an unexpected one. On November 4, 2004, US State Department
spokesman Richard Boucher abruptly announced Washington’s
decision to recognize the name Republic
of Macedonia during a
press conference. The transcript of the event shows that barely four lines were
devoted to the Macedonian question. Most actors in the dispute were caught
totally off guard.
“They very kindly called me just a few hours before it
was announced,” recalled Nimetz. He was not the only one caught by surprise.
Spiliakos, the supreme president of the Pan-Macedonian
Association, was shocked. He viewed the decision as a grave error. “They never
informed us; they did it at night,” he said during an interview last January in
his parked car, near Manhattan`s Central Park. “It’s insane.”
The setback has not deterred the Greeks in the US from
continuing their campaign. Greek diplomats have even converted such benign
locations as the UN gift shop into the battleground. Hanaa Shoukry, the buyer
at the shop, said complaints forced her to change the signs labeling gifts from
Macedonia.
Macedonian-Americans are lobbying hard in the US, too. Meto
Koloski, founder and head of the United Macedonian Diaspora, was energised by
the US move to recognise the
name Macedonia
in November 2004. That morning, he recalls being awakened in his dorm at Manhattanville College
in White Plains, New York
by a friend calling from Macedonia
with the unexpected news of the State Department announcement.
Koloski said he jumped out of bed and ran to his
college library to email every Macedonian he knew from New Jersey to Belica, the western Macedonian
village where his father was born. “It was one of the best days of my life,”
said Koloski. He skipped classes and
took his college friends out to a bar that night to celebrate.
Koloski, 23 grew up in Garfield,
New Jersey, the son of parents who immigrated
separately to the US
in the late 1970s and early1980s. Today, Garfield
is home to more than 3,000 Macedonians.
When Koloski was little, his parents sent him to live
with his grandparents in the Macedonian countryside for two years. It was there
that he learned the language that is still the lingua franca of his mother’s New Jersey home. In Garfield, he said, “you
will find a Macedonian on every corner”.
Koloski said he began exploring his national identity while
still in high school. He first co-founded the Macedonian Orthodox Youth
Association of North America, also
known by the cumbersome acronym MOYANA. A week before his father`s death in July
2000, his father was reading the international Macedonian magazine, Makedonsko
Sonce (the Macedonian Sun) when
he came across an article about Meto’s election as secretary of the North
American chapter of the World Macedonian Youth Congress. It made him very
proud.
In recent years, Koloski has turned his attention to
creating a new organisation, the United Macedonian Diaspora, which has a
growing reputation as the most active Macedonian émigré organisation. Koloski
himself is an encyclopedia of facts about his homeland. He also likes to boast
that he makes “a good tafche grafche”,
a traditional Macedonian stew of baked white beans and tomatoes.
Koloski encounters his Pan-Macedonians enemies at many
public events. He has made efforts to contact them over the years, but so far
the Pan-Macedonians have been unwilling to meet. Spiliakos and his
Pan-Macedonian colleagues dismiss Koloski and his United Macedonia Diaspora as
extremists.
Koloski said his first encounter with the
Pan-Macedonians was at his local public library in Garfield. He found that a copy of a 576-page volume, Macedonia: 4,000 Years of Greek History,
was the only book about Macedonia
available in the library. He believes
the Pan-Macedonian Association paid for the book to be distributed free of
charge to “every library in America”.
When he talks about
the book, his cool and diplomatic demeanour fades.
“I have to admit,
I took it,” Meto said with a grin. “No
actually, I think I returned it.”
But years later, Spiliakos and his fellow
Pan-Macedonians continue to deny Koloski and his countrymen the use of the name
Macedonia,
suggesting that “Slavalbania” or “Albania-slavia” might be more suitable. He
also champions the name Republika Vardarska, or Vardar
Republic, after the river that
traverses the disputed Macedonia.
Spiliakos cannot understand why
the people of FYROM insist on appropriating a foreign identity.
The
Pan-Macedonians have convinced 18 state legislatures in the US to pass nonbinding senate resolutions, reaffirming
that Macedonia
is Greek.
Spiliakos acknowledges the resolutions will have no
bearing on the dispute but says they show the Greek lobby is not to be trifled
with. “It is not enough to be right, you have to be powerful enough to
establish that you are right,” he said.
South
Carolina state senator Phil Leventis, who
sponsored the resolution in his state, is typical of the many legislators who
sponsored such resolutions. His knowledge of the background to the dispute
appears hazy, to say the least, and he was not able to say where Macedonia was
on the map, asserting that the issue was “all about the former Czechoslovakian
area”.
But Spiliakos says the senators do not need to
understand the history of the region: the Greeks can supply the requisite
facts. Nina Peropoulos, a Houston-based Midwest coordinator for the
Pan-Macedonians who helped push a resolution through the Wisconsin
state assembly, says the Greeks have all the “authentic historical data” on
their side in the dispute. Like Spiliakos, Peropoulos also champions the name
Republika Vardarska as a potential title for Macedonia.
Last summer, the Pan-Macedonian Association held a
three-day convention in Las Vegas that included
a keynote speech from George Papavizas, author of a book titled Blood and Tears and Claiming Macedonia:
Communism’s Pivotal Role in the ‘Macedonian’ Ethnogenesis.
Papavizas charged that “history has now
reached the absurd and untenable point in which a small mountainous enclave
calling itself ‘Republic of Macedonia’ may not only demand – by the power of
its apprehended name – to be a Macedonia, but the only Macedonia; and its
Slavic people may not only demand – by the power granted to them by a dictator
– to be some Macedonians, but the only Macedonians”.
Spiliakos has visited the nation he will only call the
FYROM. But in the US
he will only meet with Macedonian officials in what amounts to staged
confrontations at various diplomatic and university events. In the US, Matthew
Nimetz is perhaps the only official to have met with all sides involved in the
dispute, including Koloski’s United Macedonians and Spiliakos’ Pan-Macedonians.
“I sometimes say to myself that this is a thankless
type of job, on an issue where neither side is willing to make a concession to get
an agreement on the issue,” said Nimetz.
He has proposed at least a half a dozen alternative
names to both sides over the years but none has stuck. His personal favorite
among the discarded suggestions was New Macedonia, which he called “one nice
name”.
“I am a man of many interests,” declared Nimetz. “To some of the one-issue people I meet with,
I feel like saying, ‘Get a life.’”
Amanda Rivkin is a student at the Columbia Graduate
School of Journalism. Balkan Insight is BIRN’s online publication.
Komentari:
Macedonia is, was and always will be MACEDONIA. We've been bullied enough. Families torn apart by ethnic cleansers and assimilators from the north, south, west and east. Macedonia may not be territorially as one but in every Macedonian's heart we all dream of one day living side by side with our brothers and sisters in Aegean Macedonia, Vardar Macedonia, Pirin Macedonia and Mala Prespa Macedonia under one name, MACEDONIA. I LOVE MACEDONIA AND I LOVE BEING MACEDONIAN!
Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect and spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World. Macedonians named after Greek names ALL the cities they built or renamed. Apparently because Macedonians have always been Greeks
In order to pass as Macedonians, SlavoSkopians deny or hide crucial points of their history as well as of Macedonian history.
Istor
Macedonian, therefore Greek
http://www.network54.com/Forum/415923/
I believe that English-speakers would generally be willing to use the acronym FYROM for Macedonia if the Helenic Republic were similarly recognized as the Former Kingdom of Greece (FKING).
Macedonia is undoubtedly Greek.
Macedonians have stuggled for years to gain a free and independent country, and now our dream has come true. nothing the greek people or state do can change this. we are recognised by over 110 country's by our constitutional name, including russia, usa and china. we will also eventually enter Nato and the EU. So the greeks can cry and scream all they like because the rest of the world knows the truth. So macedonian around the whole world can be proud to be macedonian.
we ethnic macedonians from Agean macedonia who's great great grandparents were born on macedonian soil, will never forget who we are and where we came from.
James Lerinski (Melbourne, Australia)
One may argue for years on historic issues and we can agree or not. But the issue of identity, both individual and national, is a matter of basic human rights. If those people feel and say they are Macedonians how can anyone (in this 21st century) deny that? On what basis? I thought the civilized world is beyond that.
Do the greeks really know what happened in Aegean Macedonia after the Bucharest agreement in the begining of the 20th Century?
I still have my grandfather alive, who as a chiled can remember how greeks treated people who spoke 'slav' macedonian. So much harm for our people. They changed the names of towns, they made people change their names, people were not allound to even speak a word of macedonian nor on the streets nor in their private homes. They put fear among our people.
Now they claim there is only Yugoslav Macedonia. Yugoslavia was created 1945. The last Macedonian tzar Samuil rulled Macedonian Empire at the end of the10th Centyry AC. Have you heard about that at all? I laugh at Greeks who obviously have problems with everybody. The gods, Greeks. You have your own name and culture. Let us be, and leave us alone.
Listen carefully.
We (Greeks) don want to have problems with you.
We feel sorry for you cause you lost your identity.We all know what happened to north greece ,please read history , cause the truth will reveal to you...
Even in Holy Bible macedonia is described as greek territory .....(Now can you say that holy bible is propaganda?Read s.Daniel or Pauls letters)
as i said i feel sorry for you no hate and hope someday you find the truth and continue together united as good neighbours
A country that claims 98.5% ethnic purity? Come on now. Why ban the Macedonian language or anyone from identifying themselves as Macedonian. Is it because Greece really has little confidence in it's 'Greekness' and has to enforce it eveytime it's put to the test?
And buy the way, there are absolutely no references in ancient times to a country of Greece let alone Greek people. Only of Macedonia!
The problem is not created by Greece but by EU absolute and total impotence in making decision on facts rather then interest, In 1992 Denmark suggested Greece to bi kicked out of EEC as they only use false figures and are milking Europe of money. Nobody ever from EU or UN asked Greece why was name MACEDONIA banned in Greece till 1991.
Can they show a maps of Greece shown to their students on classes of geography on which name of Macedonia appears as a name of this territory.
Name of MACEDONIA was illegal for use in Greece till 1991.
But now when Greece is the locomotive of the EU economy train (which is heading for abyss ) the real face is shown to the world , only sarcasm , cynical statement and daylight political-financial robbery on scale unseen even in top Mafia circles. Italy has the mafia, Greek mafia runs the country and the Greek people will suffer for generations to come. In many occasions former PM of Greece when cornered with questions on economy would stood up and like god knows how clever statement will say , what ever are our difficulties we will not allow the north of our country to be named Macedonia only to be followed by eruption of applause and screams from each party . Those days are now gone and reality kicked in but EU and UN are still powerless to ask right questions as the interests are prevailing . By doing this they will destabilise the region completely and will create much bigger disaster in order to take the focus from Greece.
It is very dirty and inhumane game but we Europeans never have been clever , we tend to follow absolute idiots who can talk nicely.
Komentari:
Macedonia
Poslao: 2007-04-19 19:35:59,
Macedonia is, was and always will be MACEDONIA. We've been bullied enough. Families torn apart by ethnic cleansers and assimilators from the north, south, west and east. Macedonia may not be territorially as one but in every Macedonian's heart we all dream of one day living side by side with our brothers and sisters in Aegean Macedonia, Vardar Macedonia, Pirin Macedonia and Mala Prespa Macedonia under one name, MACEDONIA. I LOVE MACEDONIA AND I LOVE BEING MACEDONIAN!
macedonians have always been Greeks
Poslao: 2007-04-21 00:22:02,
Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect and spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World. Macedonians named after Greek names ALL the cities they built or renamed. Apparently because Macedonians have always been Greeks In order to pass as Macedonians, SlavoSkopians deny or hide crucial points of their history as well as of Macedonian history. Istor Macedonian, therefore Greek http://www.network54.com/Forum/415923/
Macedonia and Greece
Poslao: 2007-04-21 18:55:20,
I believe that English-speakers would generally be willing to use the acronym FYROM for Macedonia if the Helenic Republic were similarly recognized as the Former Kingdom of Greece (FKING).
Poslao: 2007-04-23 06:02:39,
Macedonia is undoubtedly Greek.
macedonia for macedonians
Poslao: 2007-04-23 12:31:43,
Macedonians have stuggled for years to gain a free and independent country, and now our dream has come true. nothing the greek people or state do can change this. we are recognised by over 110 country's by our constitutional name, including russia, usa and china. we will also eventually enter Nato and the EU. So the greeks can cry and scream all they like because the rest of the world knows the truth. So macedonian around the whole world can be proud to be macedonian. we ethnic macedonians from Agean macedonia who's great great grandparents were born on macedonian soil, will never forget who we are and where we came from. James Lerinski (Melbourne, Australia)
Only Macedonians can say who they are
Poslao: 2007-04-23 16:56:04,
One may argue for years on historic issues and we can agree or not. But the issue of identity, both individual and national, is a matter of basic human rights. If those people feel and say they are Macedonians how can anyone (in this 21st century) deny that? On what basis? I thought the civilized world is beyond that.
Greeks need to learn more about history
Poslao: 2007-06-13 17:15:35,
Do the greeks really know what happened in Aegean Macedonia after the Bucharest agreement in the begining of the 20th Century? I still have my grandfather alive, who as a chiled can remember how greeks treated people who spoke 'slav' macedonian. So much harm for our people. They changed the names of towns, they made people change their names, people were not allound to even speak a word of macedonian nor on the streets nor in their private homes. They put fear among our people. Now they claim there is only Yugoslav Macedonia. Yugoslavia was created 1945. The last Macedonian tzar Samuil rulled Macedonian Empire at the end of the10th Centyry AC. Have you heard about that at all? I laugh at Greeks who obviously have problems with everybody. The gods, Greeks. You have your own name and culture. Let us be, and leave us alone.
name of Macedonia
Poslao: 2007-06-22 16:02:48,
Listen carefully. We (Greeks) don want to have problems with you. We feel sorry for you cause you lost your identity.We all know what happened to north greece ,please read history , cause the truth will reveal to you... Even in Holy Bible macedonia is described as greek territory .....(Now can you say that holy bible is propaganda?Read s.Daniel or Pauls letters) as i said i feel sorry for you no hate and hope someday you find the truth and continue together united as good neighbours
Big Greek Lies
Poslao: 2007-06-25 18:41:56,
A country that claims 98.5% ethnic purity? Come on now. Why ban the Macedonian language or anyone from identifying themselves as Macedonian. Is it because Greece really has little confidence in it's 'Greekness' and has to enforce it eveytime it's put to the test? And buy the way, there are absolutely no references in ancient times to a country of Greece let alone Greek people. Only of Macedonia!
EU Versus Macedonia
Poslao: 2010-02-24 20:09:10,
The problem is not created by Greece but by EU absolute and total impotence in making decision on facts rather then interest, In 1992 Denmark suggested Greece to bi kicked out of EEC as they only use false figures and are milking Europe of money. Nobody ever from EU or UN asked Greece why was name MACEDONIA banned in Greece till 1991. Can they show a maps of Greece shown to their students on classes of geography on which name of Macedonia appears as a name of this territory. Name of MACEDONIA was illegal for use in Greece till 1991. But now when Greece is the locomotive of the EU economy train (which is heading for abyss ) the real face is shown to the world , only sarcasm , cynical statement and daylight political-financial robbery on scale unseen even in top Mafia circles. Italy has the mafia, Greek mafia runs the country and the Greek people will suffer for generations to come. In many occasions former PM of Greece when cornered with questions on economy would stood up and like god knows how clever statement will say , what ever are our difficulties we will not allow the north of our country to be named Macedonia only to be followed by eruption of applause and screams from each party . Those days are now gone and reality kicked in but EU and UN are still powerless to ask right questions as the interests are prevailing . By doing this they will destabilise the region completely and will create much bigger disaster in order to take the focus from Greece. It is very dirty and inhumane game but we Europeans never have been clever , we tend to follow absolute idiots who can talk nicely.